Garmin Live Scope, Love it or Hate it…..

Love/Hate

Since the creation of forward-facing sonar there has been a sharp division of opinions. On one side, you have the traditionalist that feels LiveScope is a form of cheating if you can see the fish. On the other side, you have the technologically inclined that are always chasing the latest and greatest game-changing technology. In this article, I am going to give my views after a solid year of use on the ice, open water, and in competition. 

Forward facing sonar, commonly known as LiveScope was first released by Garmin, just a few years back. Almost immediately after release, videos started appearing on the web the battle began, or should I say crying stirring the love or hate relationship. Personally, I am always chasing the latest and greatest technology, because, well, why not? After seeing the videos released online, I knew this was a must have for me. I have been a tournament angler my entire life and I want whatever is going to help me stay in the top of the field. Being able to see a fish swim across my screen and watch how it reacts around bait and other fish, is pretty awesome.

On the other side, the most common argument I hear is that using LiveScope is a form of cheating, causing lakes to become fished out. Just because you can see the fish, does not mean you can catch it. For those of you already using a forward-facing sonar, you know exactly what I mean. Yes, I felt it was a must have for me, but did I get it immediately, no.  Why not? I have three kids and a wife and $1,500 is a lot of money. I thought for sure if I waited a year or so the price would come down, maybe find a used one, but I was wrong.  This technology is so hot right now the demand for it has not slowed sales. Garmin started with only one assembly line and within less than a year, they were up to three, dedicated specifically to the production of LiveScope. As a result of the demand, the price hasn’t decreased. Almost one year ago today, I finally purchased my Garmin LiveScope. 

Hardwater

I first used my LiveScope setup on the ice, and after listening to Debbie Downers saying it will fish out a lake, I was pretty excited to give it a run for its money and fish out a lake. That didn’t happen. First time out, I didn’t catch a single fish, and my battery went dead about 3 hours into fishing. Needless to say, I wasn’t too happy. I was beyond confused with the system and upset with my batteries dumping (I’ll save that for another article).

Why wasn’t I catching every single fish in the lake like I was told I would? I couldn’t quit now, I had to justify spending $1,500 and get to know this system more intimately. I spent the remainder of the ice season trying to figure the darn thing out and it took me until the WPA Hardwater Lake Wilhelm event in February to really get it dialed in. For the first time, I was on a lake with a significate fish population and could see fish darn near everywhere. I finally played with the settings forward view, down view, and perspective mode to figure out what was best for me. I was even still trying to use the 2D puck transducer when I was sitting and bouncing back and forth between everything. It was only then that I finally started catching fish, but I was spending so much time adjusting the settings that my friends were catching more fish than I was using their older systems.

Once I  realized the forward view setting was the setting for me,  I was able to zoom out 100’ and find brush or see giant slab chilling in open water, and then sit down and zoom in to just a few feet, and do a two finger pinch of the screen (just like a cell phone) and zoom right in on my jig. This is also when I finally started saving time instead of wasting time.  Less time playing with settings equals more time finding and catching fish. 

Openwater

Fast forward to open water season. Again started playing around with settings and trying to figure out if I wanted my LiveScope mounted on my trolling motor or on one of those fancy poles I kept seeing advertised everywhere. Don’t get me wrong, those fancy poles all have a time and a place. Believe it or not, Dan (my tournament partner) and I actually ran two LiveScope system in my boat at one boat this season, one of which mounted on a fancy pole, lol.  I bounced back and forth on mounting options and ended up going with directly mounting the transducer onto my trolling motor, and here’s why.  If you haven’t figured out already I am all about finding the most efficient way of doing something and saving time. In tournament fishing, this means more casts and which equals more fish. Mounting my LiveScope on my transducer kept my hands on my rod, reel, and lines at all times and not having to worry about reaching down to adjust the transducer on a pole. Again, I am a tournament angler, saving every second helps. I have heard several people say they like having their transducer mounted on a pole off of the trolling motor because they like utilizing their spotlock. I agree, you can’t really use your LiveScope to it’s fullest potential when the trolling motor is spinning all over the place trying to hold the boat in place while on spot lock. I find that I just don’t use my spot lock that much during tournaments. That’s just me, and I’m ok with that. 

Is it worth it?

So the $1,500 question, is it worth it? ABSOLUTLY 100%, yes. I know that’s a lot of money, and it sucks, I get it. What it has done for me and Dan this past open water season made it worth every penny. It took me a long time to really understand the settings and getting it dialed in, but after getting that figured out, I have been able to save a ridiculous amount of time playing with settings and more time catching fish. As I mentioned before, I am married and have three little kids, so my time is precious. I do not get to spend hours or days on water before events, I get hours if I am lucky and maybe a half day on a weekend. LiveScope has helped me scan water fast looking for fish and brush. I can now pull up to a cove, shoreline, creek channel, ect. and scan around quickly to see what is going on. Sometimes I find fish suspended, other times I find fish hanging in stumps or over brush. I can now pull right up on those fish, that brush, that stump, and attempt to catch those fish.  LiveScope has helped me save a ridiculous amount of time and without out there is no way we would have had as successful season as we had.  Pre LiveScope, I would have spent countless hours hunting brush and even after fishing with my 2D sonar or maybe even with my side imaging, it was difficult pinpointing a cast or finding the brush or a stump without running over potentially ruining a spot by spooking fish. Now I can pull up to a spot, know exactly where a target is, and cast to it. Not only can I pin point a spot, I can also see if there are fish holding on it and move on if necessary. 

Still not sold on the idea of LiveScope, or have questions? I can’t give away all my secrets, but I would be more than glad to help you with questions you have about your set up, to better utilize your time on the water, or I can even help you order your first system.

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2020 Rules and Regulations Now Available

They’re here! What you’ve all been asking for – the 2020 tournament series rules and regulations.

Visit the Tournament Schedule and Rules page to view this year’s updated rules. New and updated rules have been noted on the rules sheet. Be sure to check out some of the updates for the upcoming season prior to the first tournament. We can’t wait to see you!

Only 23 more days until our first event at Lake Arthur

Sayers Lake Event Cancelled

Western PA Hardwater has moved both the location and date of the January 19th event from Sayers Lake to Lake Arthur in Butler, PA due to ice conditions. The event will now be held on Sunday 1/27.

Currently ice conditions are being monitored at Lake Arthur. The areas under consideration: upper 528 boat ramp, the church launch, and 528 bridge launch area. This decision will be made by late next week based on the safest ice conditions available.

We’ve got the ice itch and know you do too. Please stay tuned to our Facebook page for the most recent updates.

Updated tournament dates and locations for the 2019 tournament series


01/05 Lake Arthur (Butler, PA) CANCELLED
01/19 Sayers Lake (Howard, PA) CANCELLED
Sunday 01/27 Lake Arthur (Butler, PA)
02/02 Kahle Lake (Emlenton, PA)
02/16-17 Presque Isle Bay (Erie, PA)
03/02 Pymatuning Lake (Linesville, PA)

Location Change for 01/19/2019 Event

Western PA Hardwater has moved the location of the January 19th event from Sayers Lake to Lake Arthur in Butler, PA due to ice conditions. Currently ice conditions are being monitored at Lake Arthur. The areas under consideration: upper 528 boat ramp, the church launch, and 528 bridge launch area. This decision will be made by late next week based on the safest ice conditions available.

We apologize for the inconvenience, but hope you’ll still join us for both events. Please stay tuned to our Facebook page for the most recent updates.

Updated tournament dates and locations for the 2019 tournament series


01/05 Lake Arthur (Butler, PA) CANCELLED
01/19 Sayers Lake (Howard, PA) LOCATION CHANGE: Lake Arthur (Butler, PA)
02/02 Kahle Lake (Emlenton, PA)
02/16-17 Presque Isle Bay (Erie, PA)
03/02 Pymatuning Lake (Linesville, PA)

Updated 2019 Series Dates

Western PA Hardwater will be switching our Kahle Lake and Sayers Lake dates back to the original dates due to another event being held at Sayers Lake on our originally scheduled date. Park rules do not permit two events on the same day, and the other event is a charity fundraiser which is for an extremely good cause. We are a Christian organization with big hearts and want to respect the space of other event/cause.

We apologize for the inconvenience, but hope you’ll still join us for both events. Please stay tuned to our Facebook page for the most recent updates.

Updated tournament dates and locations for the 2019 tournament series


01/05 Lake Arthur (Butler, PA)
01/19 Sayers Lake (Howard, PA)
02/02 Kahle Lake (Emlenton, PA)
02/16-17 Presque Isle Bay (Erie, PA)
03/02 Pymatuning Lake (Linesville, PA)

Striker Ice Save Lives: A Survivor’s Story

Striker Ice Logo

I have wanted to write this article for some time now, as I kept hearing about Striker Ice suits saving two of our contestants’ lives. I have known about Striker ice suits for some time now, and to be honest, shame on me for not getting one sooner. These suits will without a doubt save a life, as you’ll read in this post. In fact, in support of Striker, and their awesome product, you will see the WPA Hardwater staff and I wearing Striker suits this upcoming season, because we believe safety comes first

Raised in the Butler, PA area there were very limited ice fishing tournaments held in the area. I am also not aware of any ice fishing tournament series existing prior to WPA Hardwater. As a result, our exposure to the latest and greatest technology and equipment has been limited to what we see in magazines, or watch on YouTube videos. WPA Hardwater plans on changing these old ways, and bringing ice fishing in Western PA and surrounding areas back up to date with the latest and greatest technology.

To go back a little bit, the first WPA Hardwater event was held on Lake Arthur in Butler, PA in 2016. We had teams coming from all over Pennsylvania, and surrounding states, including multiple teams from New York. I noticed immediately that all of the teams in NY were wearing these ultra-sharp, grey and black ice fishing suites. I personally had never seen one before in person, but quickly noticed and recognized the “SI” logo on the front of their jackets and knew immediately what these suits were. These were Striker floating ice suits. I was aware of the high quality product Striker was producing from ads on social media and some online reading, but when you see 10+ friends all from the same general area, all wearing the same brand suit, you know something’s up. 

Catalog image of an ice fishing suit by Striker
Striker Ice Hardwater Jacket and Bibs with Sureflote Technology, Thermadex Insulation, and Hydrapore Waterproof/Breathability

Let’s fast forward a bit. In 2018, I heard small talk about one of our teams fishing an event (not a WPA Hardwater event) and falling through the ice. Part of this story relayed how had they not been wearing Striker suits, they more than likely would not be alive to share their story. I made a few calls, and did some digging to found out who the team was – some of our competitors – Nick Glosser and Jeffery Snyder. As a result, I was able to reach out to Nick via phone and talk to him for well over an hour about fishing, his tournament career, and his daytime job as a First Mate on the Thrillseeker which runs salmon charters out of Olcott, NY.

Nick has been ice fishing since he was 16 years-old, and has competed in multiple levels of ice fishing tournaments throughout the U.S. since 2012. Nick qualified for, and fished the in, the Midwest Open tournament in 2016, finishing 22nd out of 150 teams. In 2018, he and partner, Chad Beale of Freeport, PA took home the title of WPA Hardwater champions. Nick shared his story with me, in hopes that his story may keep another fisherman safe on the ice. 

Nick Glosser (left) and Chad Beale show off their catch at the 2018 WPA Hardwater Kahle Lake tournament

While fishing an ice fishing tournament at Waneta Lake, NY in 2017, with his then partner Jeffrey Snyder, Nick and Jeff could see several gas pockets holding in random locations throughout the ice as they were walking. The ice was 6”-8” thick across the lake. Nick and Jeff were able to walk to their fishing spot by zig-zagging to avoid the gas pockets, making it to their target spot without any problems. Shortly after sitting down to fish, they heard a commotion from across the lake. Jeff turned around first, and realized someone had fallen through. He immediately dropped his fishing rod and took off running to help, Nick following behind. As they were both running across the lake, Jeff stepped one of the ice pockets, about 50 yards away from where they had been fishing, and fell through the ice. Nick, tried to stop, but slid across the black ice into the now open water.

Both Nick and Jeff were wearing Striker ice suits which kept them above the water, never sinking below their heads. Nick immediately remembered watching an ice safety video, and was able to lay flat on top of the water and kick himself back out of the ice within seconds.  Jeff was shook up and panicking, but still above the water in thanks to his Striker suit.  Nick was able to maneuver himself around the open water to assist Jeff out of the water.  Once both Jeff and Nick were out of the water, they wasted no time and immediately began running back towards the individual that had already fallen through, still about 200 yards away.  Meanwhile, a group of individuals on shore had witnessed the fisherman falling through, and were able to help the individual out of the water as well.

Nick and Jeff both credit their lives to Striker and their float suit. Nick said even when he was in the water, his suit made him feel like he was bobbing like a pop bottle. Since this incident, Nick has spread the word about his story, and how Striker products helped save their lives that day. Nick continues to ice fish and compete in ice fishing events across the U.S., and will compete again with us at WPA Hardwater in 2019.

Fisherman in Striker Ice float suit holding a fish and fishing rod, kneeling on the ice
Nick Glosser shows off his catch in his Striker Ice suit

I would like to personally thank Nick for sharing this story with us, as well as extend thanks to Striker for supporting the upcoming 2019 season as a sponsor. As part of this sponsorship, we’ll be giving away Striker products at our events, so come fish with us, and don’t forget your Striker Float Suit!

 

If you are interested in a Striker ice suit, please visit their website at https://strikerbrands.com/ and check out the full selection of styles, including Ladies styles

You can purchase your Striker suit directly from Striker or through another one of our wonderful sponsors, FishUSA

 

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Updated 2018 Series Locations

Due to unsafe ice conditions at Edinboro Lake, the event scheduled for next Saturday, January 20, 2018 has been relocated to Presque Isle Bay, Chestnut Street Ramp. Other upcoming event locations, listed below, are considered tentative until an ice safety check is performed several days prior. Safety is always our number one priority.

02/03 Kahle Lake

02/24-02/25 Presque Isle (2018 Championship)

03/03-03/04 Make up date (Location to be determined)

Stay tuned on our Facebook page for frequent updates. We’ll see you on the ice!

2018 Series Dates Announced

You’ve been waiting patiently, and here they are, the 2018 series dates. The 2018 Rules are now available, as well. Don’t forget to “Like” our Facebook page for more updates!

01/06 Lake Arthur
01/20 Edinboro Lake
02/03 Kahle Lake

02/24-02/25 Presque Isle (2018 Championship)

03/03-03/04 Make up date (Location to be determined)

 

We’ll see you on the ice!